Details of the new DJ Shadow album to be released on August 1st September 4th have emerged.
“In a twilight of a time, there emerges a need for man to comprehend his own bitter fate. Finally resigned to the inevitable beyond, he searches the ages, desperate for stories of insurance, redemption and hope…but there is one tale that has yet been told, the story of ‘The Outsider’.” (‘Outsider Intro’)
The Outsider Tracklisting
- Outsider Intro
- This Time (I’m Gonna Try It My Way)
- 3 Freaks- Featuring Keak Da Sneak & Turf Talk
- Droop-E Drop
- Turf Dancing-Feat. The Federation & Animaniaks
- Keep Em Close-Feat. Nump
- Seein Thangs-Feat. David Banner
- Broken Levee Blues
- Artifact [Instrumental]
- Backstage Girl-Feat. Phonte Coleman
- Triplicate / Something Happened That Day
- The Tiger-Feat. Sergio Pizzorno & Christopher Karloff
- Erase You-Feat. Chris James
- What Have I Done-Feat. Christina Carter
- You Made It-Feat. Chris James
- Enuff-Feat. Q-Tip & Lateef The Truth Speaker
- Dats My Part-Feat. E-40
It definitely looks like it’ll be more of a straight up hip hop album than previous albums. Really looking forward to hearing Q-Tip on some new tracks. Has anybody heard his unreleased masterpiece ‘Kamaal the Abstract’ ? It’s great. Leave a shout in the comments if you want me to put a few tracks up.
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Yeah I was really interested in the Kamal thing-I heard a couple of tracks and a couple more excerpts but couldn’t decide if it was really great or really self indulgent.
would love to hear some more if you have some.
jack
Yeah I was really interested in the Kamal thing-I heard a couple of tracks and a couple more excerpts but couldn’t decide if it was really great or really self indulgent.
would love to hear some more if you have some.
jack
Yeah I was really interested in the Kamal thing-I heard a couple of tracks and a couple more excerpts but couldn’t decide if it was really great or really self indulgent.
would love to hear some more if you have some.
jack
http://www.nialler9.com/blog/2006/07/02/kamaal-the-abstract/
Here ya go jaksoul
http://www.nialler9.com/blog/2006/07/02/kamaal-the-abstract/
Here ya go jaksoul
http://www.nialler9.com/blog/2006/07/02/kamaal-the-abstract/
Here ya go jaksoul
niall,
thanks man-look forward to checking these babies out.
jack
niall,
thanks man-look forward to checking these babies out.
jack
is anybody as legitimately just straight up sad about this new album as i am? Shadow is the reason i got into production. he was my idol. And now he’s working with keak da sneak, E-40, federation, and the rest of those hyphy guys? Seeing them with phonte and lateef on one album makes hy head want to explode. How could he go from an album like entroducing, to hyphy? I don’t know what to think…
is anybody as legitimately just straight up sad about this new album as i am? Shadow is the reason i got into production. he was my idol. And now he’s working with keak da sneak, E-40, federation, and the rest of those hyphy guys? Seeing them with phonte and lateef on one album makes hy head want to explode. How could he go from an album like entroducing, to hyphy? I don’t know what to think…
is anybody as legitimately just straight up sad about this new album as i am? Shadow is the reason i got into production. he was my idol. And now he’s working with keak da sneak, E-40, federation, and the rest of those hyphy guys? Seeing them with phonte and lateef on one album makes hy head want to explode. How could he go from an album like entroducing, to hyphy? I don’t know what to think…
is anybody as legitimately just straight up sad about this new album as i am? Shadow is the reason i got into production. he was my idol. And now he’s working with keak da sneak, E-40, federation, and the rest of those hyphy guys? Seeing them with phonte and lateef on one album makes hy head want to explode. How could he go from an album like entroducing, to hyphy? I don’t know what to think…
Chill, z-pooh. Have you heard any tracks yet? I haven’t, but I’m holding out for Shadow. He can do anything!
Chill, z-pooh. Have you heard any tracks yet? I haven’t, but I’m holding out for Shadow. He can do anything!
Chill, z-pooh. Have you heard any tracks yet? I haven’t, but I’m holding out for Shadow. He can do anything!
yeah i have heard some of the tracks. i wanted to give it a chance. but first off I mean have you heard 3 freaks? And then i thought well maybe since he’s got that track with lateef it will be pretty good, but it’s that same crappy hyphy production.
yeah i have heard some of the tracks. i wanted to give it a chance. but first off I mean have you heard 3 freaks? And then i thought well maybe since he’s got that track with lateef it will be pretty good, but it’s that same crappy hyphy production.
yeah i have heard some of the tracks. i wanted to give it a chance. but first off I mean have you heard 3 freaks? And then i thought well maybe since he’s got that track with lateef it will be pretty good, but it’s that same crappy hyphy production.
guys , have you heard this yet?
http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3076
More fuel for the fire…
guys , have you heard this yet?
http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3076
More fuel for the fire…
guys , have you heard this yet?
http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3076
More fuel for the fire…
Oof. This is disappointing. Unfortunate, this music. This next album – I don’t think it’s for me. I’ve got a couple of explanations, though. Shadow experienced 2 moments of mortality a little more than a year ago: he almost died in a car accident in London, and his first child was born (children, twins). So after these life-altering recognitions of the fragility of life he stepped back, checked himself, and reassesed. Maybe he said “Yo, b4 I die, or b4 I get so damn old I don’t care, I’m gonna do something 100% for myself. I’m gonna indulge in some junk food. I’m gonna dig deep into what I dig the most. I’m gonna make something that is pure, un-scripted ME.” And “The Outsider” album is it: it’s his roots (hiphop) and it’s his home (hyphy). And I’m sure he really really digs it, just in a different way than he digs, say, Stem/LongStem. (a TOTALLY diff. way) The other explanation for this music is that he’s paying off some kind of debt to his homies in the Bay Area, or maybe he’s getting too much heat in his hood for dissin his roots. One thing’s for sure though: this is a phase. Shadow’s gonna be around for a long long time. And in about 3 or 4 more years he’ll drop some Serious re-thinking of hiphop on us again like back in ’96. But for now, this is what he’s doing. I think the music’s lame. But I think the man is righteous.
Oof. This is disappointing. Unfortunate, this music. This next album – I don’t think it’s for me. I’ve got a couple of explanations, though. Shadow experienced 2 moments of mortality a little more than a year ago: he almost died in a car accident in London, and his first child was born (children, twins). So after these life-altering recognitions of the fragility of life he stepped back, checked himself, and reassesed. Maybe he said “Yo, b4 I die, or b4 I get so damn old I don’t care, I’m gonna do something 100% for myself. I’m gonna indulge in some junk food. I’m gonna dig deep into what I dig the most. I’m gonna make something that is pure, un-scripted ME.” And “The Outsider” album is it: it’s his roots (hiphop) and it’s his home (hyphy). And I’m sure he really really digs it, just in a different way than he digs, say, Stem/LongStem. (a TOTALLY diff. way) The other explanation for this music is that he’s paying off some kind of debt to his homies in the Bay Area, or maybe he’s getting too much heat in his hood for dissin his roots. One thing’s for sure though: this is a phase. Shadow’s gonna be around for a long long time. And in about 3 or 4 more years he’ll drop some Serious re-thinking of hiphop on us again like back in ’96. But for now, this is what he’s doing. I think the music’s lame. But I think the man is righteous.
i think it’s a total copout. i think shadow’s been in the game long enough he’s ready to make some cash. And in this day and age, the “hyphy movement” is where the cash is at unfortunately. he knows it, and he’s ready to make bank. but going from shit like building steam, and blood on the motorway, to this? it’s just sad. plain and simple.
i think it’s a total copout. i think shadow’s been in the game long enough he’s ready to make some cash. And in this day and age, the “hyphy movement” is where the cash is at unfortunately. he knows it, and he’s ready to make bank. but going from shit like building steam, and blood on the motorway, to this? it’s just sad. plain and simple.
and wow… case in point, that xxl link. i just checked that out AFTER my post… that’s quite possibly some of the straight up worst production i’ve ever heard.
and wow… case in point, that xxl link. i just checked that out AFTER my post… that’s quite possibly some of the straight up worst production i’ve ever heard.
and wow… case in point, that xxl link. i just checked that out AFTER my post… that’s quite possibly some of the straight up worst production i’ve ever heard.
and wow… case in point, that xxl link. i just checked that out AFTER my post… that’s quite possibly some of the straight up worst production i’ve ever heard.
wtf is this album i have like a 100 dj shadow albums varying from livesets to his various ep/lp albums. and this is absolute crap, wtf shadow stick to your roots and make the beats i can understand a couple collabos with GOOD emcees just peppered throughout another beatiful beat album, but i guess youve fallen off with that and now produce the jiggy. Gay.
wtf is this album i have like a 100 dj shadow albums varying from livesets to his various ep/lp albums. and this is absolute crap, wtf shadow stick to your roots and make the beats i can understand a couple collabos with GOOD emcees just peppered throughout another beatiful beat album, but i guess youve fallen off with that and now produce the jiggy. Gay.
you guys are some nerds. get over yourselves.
you guys are some nerds. get over yourselves.
by the way, the hyphy movement is certainly not where all “the money is” if he really wanted to sell out he woulda done it.
besides, he’s already loaded.
by the way, the hyphy movement is certainly not where all “the money is” if he really wanted to sell out he woulda done it.
besides, he’s already loaded.
by the way, the hyphy movement is certainly not where all “the money is” if he really wanted to sell out he woulda done it.
besides, he’s already loaded.
by the way, the hyphy movement is certainly not where all “the money is” if he really wanted to sell out he woulda done it.
besides, he’s already loaded.
maybe not if you wanna be that literal about it. But i’m not talking selling out like Scott Storch (but that’s been that way for a while) or say DJ Premier producing for Christina Aguilera (but he’s still the king) but as far as Shadow’s music goes? it’s another story. And in the music world, “loaded” is all relative. Besides, in the hip hop community, hyphy IS where it’s at. You must be sleepin if you don’t know that.
maybe not if you wanna be that literal about it. But i’m not talking selling out like Scott Storch (but that’s been that way for a while) or say DJ Premier producing for Christina Aguilera (but he’s still the king) but as far as Shadow’s music goes? it’s another story. And in the music world, “loaded” is all relative. Besides, in the hip hop community, hyphy IS where it’s at. You must be sleepin if you don’t know that.
if you dont understand it, im sure he doesn’t make it for you..before you open your mouths, perhaps you should enlighten us to your classic contributions to different genres of music.
oh yeah..q-tip song is not “hyphy”
if you dont understand it, im sure he doesn’t make it for you..before you open your mouths, perhaps you should enlighten us to your classic contributions to different genres of music.
oh yeah..q-tip song is not “hyphy”
if you dont understand it, im sure he doesn’t make it for you..before you open your mouths, perhaps you should enlighten us to your classic contributions to different genres of music.
oh yeah..q-tip song is not “hyphy”
there’s nothing to understand. And no shit he doesn’t make it for anybody specific. He’s doing it for himself, and nobody said he shouldn’t and nobody said he’s a bad person. It’s just dissapointing. What do you even mean when you say “enlighten us to your classic contributions… ?” That dosn’t really make sense… If you’re talking to me specifically, or anybody, none of us are saying we’re as good as him or better, or even close. He’s the shit, and he always will be. But when you release a masterpiece like blood on the motorway on your last album, and then release a song like turf dancing… it’s a bit of a kick in the nuts. Don’t spit that “before you open your mouths” bullshit. You aren’t some high and mighty, righteous hip hop savior.
there’s nothing to understand. And no shit he doesn’t make it for anybody specific. He’s doing it for himself, and nobody said he shouldn’t and nobody said he’s a bad person. It’s just dissapointing. What do you even mean when you say “enlighten us to your classic contributions… ?” That dosn’t really make sense… If you’re talking to me specifically, or anybody, none of us are saying we’re as good as him or better, or even close. He’s the shit, and he always will be. But when you release a masterpiece like blood on the motorway on your last album, and then release a song like turf dancing… it’s a bit of a kick in the nuts. Don’t spit that “before you open your mouths” bullshit. You aren’t some high and mighty, righteous hip hop savior.
it’s only a kick in the nuts of the nerds who think they got shadow figured out. this new album is dope. the outsider for real. just try and wrap your head around ‘this time’ and quit fucking shitting your pants.
hyphy is dope, but please believe dj shadow has as much dough as keak da sneak. compare e40 album sales to jay z. come come now.
can’t believe i came back here
it’s only a kick in the nuts of the nerds who think they got shadow figured out. this new album is dope. the outsider for real. just try and wrap your head around ‘this time’ and quit fucking shitting your pants.
hyphy is dope, but please believe dj shadow has as much dough as keak da sneak. compare e40 album sales to jay z. come come now.
can’t believe i came back here
No. Hyphy is not dope. that’s it and that’s all. Nobody’s sayign they have shadow figured out. Who cares about album sales, Hyphy is bullshit. It’s a bunch of fools who can’t rap pretending to have seizures onstage. Quality.
No. Hyphy is not dope. that’s it and that’s all. Nobody’s sayign they have shadow figured out. Who cares about album sales, Hyphy is bullshit. It’s a bunch of fools who can’t rap pretending to have seizures onstage. Quality.
No. Hyphy is not dope. that’s it and that’s all. Nobody’s sayign they have shadow figured out. Who cares about album sales, Hyphy is bullshit. It’s a bunch of fools who can’t rap pretending to have seizures onstage. Quality.
oh goodness..who’s playing the “savior” role? perhaps you should write dj shadow to offer your invaluable advice in order to help him through this confused state and, thus, relieve the rest of us fans from having to tolerate this abhorrent perversion of our beloved hip-hop culture..like that one guy said, “get over yourselves”..
and yes..hyphy is “dope”..fools mock what they don’t understand..dont be so elitist..hip hop, for the most part, offers the opportunity to see the world through the eyes of a minority group in an unequal, fragmented society..sometimes its not nice and pretty..and sometimes its not in a style you comprehend or enjoy..that doesn’t mean it lacks legitimacy as a form of hip hop culture. Equality.
oh goodness..who’s playing the “savior” role? perhaps you should write dj shadow to offer your invaluable advice in order to help him through this confused state and, thus, relieve the rest of us fans from having to tolerate this abhorrent perversion of our beloved hip-hop culture..like that one guy said, “get over yourselves”..
and yes..hyphy is “dope”..fools mock what they don’t understand..dont be so elitist..hip hop, for the most part, offers the opportunity to see the world through the eyes of a minority group in an unequal, fragmented society..sometimes its not nice and pretty..and sometimes its not in a style you comprehend or enjoy..that doesn’t mean it lacks legitimacy as a form of hip hop culture. Equality.
oh goodness..who’s playing the “savior” role? perhaps you should write dj shadow to offer your invaluable advice in order to help him through this confused state and, thus, relieve the rest of us fans from having to tolerate this abhorrent perversion of our beloved hip-hop culture..like that one guy said, “get over yourselves”..
and yes..hyphy is “dope”..fools mock what they don’t understand..dont be so elitist..hip hop, for the most part, offers the opportunity to see the world through the eyes of a minority group in an unequal, fragmented society..sometimes its not nice and pretty..and sometimes its not in a style you comprehend or enjoy..that doesn’t mean it lacks legitimacy as a form of hip hop culture. Equality.
All thse bacpacking nerds really need to stop crying and shut the f–k up. Downloaded The Outsider last nite and even though its different to Endtroducing and Private Press it’s still a class album. What, you want him making abstract introspective Hip Hop all his life to bore everyone? He’s made a class Hip Hop album thats exploring all angles and all I hear from the geeks is how he’s fallen. For f–cks sake, fix up you whinging nerds,I’m guessing you never like Hip Hop in the first place or else you could at least appreciate what he’s doing
I hope Shadow sells these units now and all these nerds get over themselves
All thse bacpacking nerds really need to stop crying and shut the f–k up. Downloaded The Outsider last nite and even though its different to Endtroducing and Private Press it’s still a class album. What, you want him making abstract introspective Hip Hop all his life to bore everyone? He’s made a class Hip Hop album thats exploring all angles and all I hear from the geeks is how he’s fallen. For f–cks sake, fix up you whinging nerds,I’m guessing you never like Hip Hop in the first place or else you could at least appreciate what he’s doing
I hope Shadow sells these units now and all these nerds get over themselves
Why dj shadow sucks in 06?
it’s the money!
Why dj shadow sucks in 06?
it’s the money!
Why dj shadow sucks in 06?
it’s the money!
But here ain’t all that cash in the hyphy movement ain’t there? It’s not like he’s crunking it with Lil Jon and friends. Get over the fact he’s done sommot not catered for the nerdy white middle class American this time round for fuck’s sake
But here ain’t all that cash in the hyphy movement ain’t there? It’s not like he’s crunking it with Lil Jon and friends. Get over the fact he’s done sommot not catered for the nerdy white middle class American this time round for fuck’s sake
Nobody’s saying he’s fallen from grace or any of that bullshit, read what people are saying before you talk shit about who’s benig elitist and who knows more blah blah blah. All we’re saying is, as big shadow fans, it’s dissapointing. That’s all. And no that’s crap. You have to appreciate all forms of hip hop to like it? Hyphy is a culture based on getting fucked up. Lil Jon’s original as fuck, but is th music good? absolutely not. And just because you love shadow’s previous work, and don’t like the new hyphy stuff, does not in any way shape or form mean you’re strictly backpack. The new Busta Cd is the shit, The new Jurassic 5’s the shit, the new asamov is the shit. Saying you don’t like hyphy doesn’t make you backpack. And so you’re saying everything shadow has done hasn’t been for himself at all? he’s been purposely putting out records for “nerdy white middle class americans” Fuck that. What he’s doing is what he’s doing. That’s all there is to it. Some people like it, some people don’t. Accept it or don’t.
Nobody’s saying he’s fallen from grace or any of that bullshit, read what people are saying before you talk shit about who’s benig elitist and who knows more blah blah blah. All we’re saying is, as big shadow fans, it’s dissapointing. That’s all. And no that’s crap. You have to appreciate all forms of hip hop to like it? Hyphy is a culture based on getting fucked up. Lil Jon’s original as fuck, but is th music good? absolutely not. And just because you love shadow’s previous work, and don’t like the new hyphy stuff, does not in any way shape or form mean you’re strictly backpack. The new Busta Cd is the shit, The new Jurassic 5’s the shit, the new asamov is the shit. Saying you don’t like hyphy doesn’t make you backpack. And so you’re saying everything shadow has done hasn’t been for himself at all? he’s been purposely putting out records for “nerdy white middle class americans” Fuck that. What he’s doing is what he’s doing. That’s all there is to it. Some people like it, some people don’t. Accept it or don’t.
Nobody’s saying he’s fallen from grace or any of that bullshit, read what people are saying before you talk shit about who’s benig elitist and who knows more blah blah blah. All we’re saying is, as big shadow fans, it’s dissapointing. That’s all. And no that’s crap. You have to appreciate all forms of hip hop to like it? Hyphy is a culture based on getting fucked up. Lil Jon’s original as fuck, but is th music good? absolutely not. And just because you love shadow’s previous work, and don’t like the new hyphy stuff, does not in any way shape or form mean you’re strictly backpack. The new Busta Cd is the shit, The new Jurassic 5’s the shit, the new asamov is the shit. Saying you don’t like hyphy doesn’t make you backpack. And so you’re saying everything shadow has done hasn’t been for himself at all? he’s been purposely putting out records for “nerdy white middle class americans” Fuck that. What he’s doing is what he’s doing. That’s all there is to it. Some people like it, some people don’t. Accept it or don’t.
Hurray! There’s a common-sense post. I was about to trash you a few posts back, pooh. But, I feel you now. I mean, I never meant to trash the hyphy movement, or whatever. I certainly have an opinion. But I never meant to Oh-Fend. And I didn’t. And why even address who’s “side yr on” and whether you’re crunk enough or were in at the beginning or how down/real you are? Who cares? It’s all about the music, anyway. Instead of high-minded cultural clashes, why don’t we talk about why The Outsider is so disappointing. (Or why it rocks yr world). For me, it’s the beats. They’re so predictable and – not weak – but just kinda hollow cause they’re so trite. It’s like the music has been cranked up to a primary color and has a spray-painted sheen. The depth of Shadow’s previous stuff is lost. There’s nothing intriguing or strange or jarring or cryptic about this sound. The Outsider is just that: it’s all on the outside, nothing is kept back, it all hangs out. It’s like Shadow has given away his secrets and is now peddling on the street. (This is only based on 2 tracks – the Keak cut, and the XL cut that Nailler posted above).
Hurray! There’s a common-sense post. I was about to trash you a few posts back, pooh. But, I feel you now. I mean, I never meant to trash the hyphy movement, or whatever. I certainly have an opinion. But I never meant to Oh-Fend. And I didn’t. And why even address who’s “side yr on” and whether you’re crunk enough or were in at the beginning or how down/real you are? Who cares? It’s all about the music, anyway. Instead of high-minded cultural clashes, why don’t we talk about why The Outsider is so disappointing. (Or why it rocks yr world). For me, it’s the beats. They’re so predictable and – not weak – but just kinda hollow cause they’re so trite. It’s like the music has been cranked up to a primary color and has a spray-painted sheen. The depth of Shadow’s previous stuff is lost. There’s nothing intriguing or strange or jarring or cryptic about this sound. The Outsider is just that: it’s all on the outside, nothing is kept back, it all hangs out. It’s like Shadow has given away his secrets and is now peddling on the street. (This is only based on 2 tracks – the Keak cut, and the XL cut that Nailler posted above).
Hurray! There’s a common-sense post. I was about to trash you a few posts back, pooh. But, I feel you now. I mean, I never meant to trash the hyphy movement, or whatever. I certainly have an opinion. But I never meant to Oh-Fend. And I didn’t. And why even address who’s “side yr on” and whether you’re crunk enough or were in at the beginning or how down/real you are? Who cares? It’s all about the music, anyway. Instead of high-minded cultural clashes, why don’t we talk about why The Outsider is so disappointing. (Or why it rocks yr world). For me, it’s the beats. They’re so predictable and – not weak – but just kinda hollow cause they’re so trite. It’s like the music has been cranked up to a primary color and has a spray-painted sheen. The depth of Shadow’s previous stuff is lost. There’s nothing intriguing or strange or jarring or cryptic about this sound. The Outsider is just that: it’s all on the outside, nothing is kept back, it all hangs out. It’s like Shadow has given away his secrets and is now peddling on the street. (This is only based on 2 tracks – the Keak cut, and the XL cut that Nailler posted above).
Hurray! There’s a common-sense post. I was about to trash you a few posts back, pooh. But, I feel you now. I mean, I never meant to trash the hyphy movement, or whatever. I certainly have an opinion. But I never meant to Oh-Fend. And I didn’t. And why even address who’s “side yr on” and whether you’re crunk enough or were in at the beginning or how down/real you are? Who cares? It’s all about the music, anyway. Instead of high-minded cultural clashes, why don’t we talk about why The Outsider is so disappointing. (Or why it rocks yr world). For me, it’s the beats. They’re so predictable and – not weak – but just kinda hollow cause they’re so trite. It’s like the music has been cranked up to a primary color and has a spray-painted sheen. The depth of Shadow’s previous stuff is lost. There’s nothing intriguing or strange or jarring or cryptic about this sound. The Outsider is just that: it’s all on the outside, nothing is kept back, it all hangs out. It’s like Shadow has given away his secrets and is now peddling on the street. (This is only based on 2 tracks – the Keak cut, and the XL cut that Nailler posted above).
There are a few good tracks…. Artifact is pretty dope so is Broken Levee Blues.
There are a few good tracks…. Artifact is pretty dope so is Broken Levee Blues.
Artists don’t make music for trainspotters. Who gives a fuck if you wanted him to do what you wanted, make another sample-smash prog-ecstasy Endtroducing album so you could jizz out and be like ‘oh wow, his records are so rare, oh Shadow your crates are so deep.’ His progression as an artist is not yours. I’ve heard a million Shadow offerings. I gotta say that, in his oeuvre, it fits in rather yum. He’s gone from Endtroducing to Brainfreeze + Preemptive + Private P…. and nary a boring period in the bunch. The dirty insane drums are still there that you’re never gonna find, dickheads, you just can’t hear them because you don’t like music enough to open up. Live instruments? Collabs up the wing-wang? Hyphy-crunk that sounds like Modeselektor got locked in a Hurricane Katrina record store basement? Check your head bitches
Artists don’t make music for trainspotters. Who gives a fuck if you wanted him to do what you wanted, make another sample-smash prog-ecstasy Endtroducing album so you could jizz out and be like ‘oh wow, his records are so rare, oh Shadow your crates are so deep.’ His progression as an artist is not yours. I’ve heard a million Shadow offerings. I gotta say that, in his oeuvre, it fits in rather yum. He’s gone from Endtroducing to Brainfreeze + Preemptive + Private P…. and nary a boring period in the bunch. The dirty insane drums are still there that you’re never gonna find, dickheads, you just can’t hear them because you don’t like music enough to open up. Live instruments? Collabs up the wing-wang? Hyphy-crunk that sounds like Modeselektor got locked in a Hurricane Katrina record store basement? Check your head bitches
Artists don’t make music for trainspotters. Who gives a fuck if you wanted him to do what you wanted, make another sample-smash prog-ecstasy Endtroducing album so you could jizz out and be like ‘oh wow, his records are so rare, oh Shadow your crates are so deep.’ His progression as an artist is not yours. I’ve heard a million Shadow offerings. I gotta say that, in his oeuvre, it fits in rather yum. He’s gone from Endtroducing to Brainfreeze + Preemptive + Private P…. and nary a boring period in the bunch. The dirty insane drums are still there that you’re never gonna find, dickheads, you just can’t hear them because you don’t like music enough to open up. Live instruments? Collabs up the wing-wang? Hyphy-crunk that sounds like Modeselektor got locked in a Hurricane Katrina record store basement? Check your head bitches
there’s nothin to check. You can’t compare this with his other albums, and say it’s the same. Just because he has collabs and live instruments doesn’t mean shit. N*E*R*D* collab’d with the good charlotte boys on fly or die. It doesn’t matter who you collab with or how many times. I personally could never deal with eminem, but his track on soundbombing is the shit. And what are you even talking about, are you not a shadow fan? it’s not like his specialty was “dirty insane drums” i mean you say you’ve heard private press. This album is completely different. That’s all there is to it. It’s not like his other work and that’s that. Trying to compare them isn’t possible. Who gives a shit if his records are rare or not? he sampled fucking simon and garfunkle on provate press, so you’re the one who needs to step back and chill out. This isn’t a blog about who knows more about shadow or who knows more about hip hop.
there’s nothin to check. You can’t compare this with his other albums, and say it’s the same. Just because he has collabs and live instruments doesn’t mean shit. N*E*R*D* collab’d with the good charlotte boys on fly or die. It doesn’t matter who you collab with or how many times. I personally could never deal with eminem, but his track on soundbombing is the shit. And what are you even talking about, are you not a shadow fan? it’s not like his specialty was “dirty insane drums” i mean you say you’ve heard private press. This album is completely different. That’s all there is to it. It’s not like his other work and that’s that. Trying to compare them isn’t possible. Who gives a shit if his records are rare or not? he sampled fucking simon and garfunkle on provate press, so you’re the one who needs to step back and chill out. This isn’t a blog about who knows more about shadow or who knows more about hip hop.
get a life
get a life
get a life
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here guys – check this out – new shadow tune! http://www.sexygirls.com
here guys – check this out – new shadow tune! http://www.sexygirls.com
here guys – check this out – new shadow tune! http://www.sexygirls.com
i listened to this album, it totally sucks ass
i listened to this album, it totally sucks ass
i listened to this album, it totally sucks ass
where’d you listen to it? even though from what i’ve heard i’m dissapointed i really wanna hear the rest. Because i really do want so badly to like it. I just watched in tune and on time, and damn…
where’d you listen to it? even though from what i’ve heard i’m dissapointed i really wanna hear the rest. Because i really do want so badly to like it. I just watched in tune and on time, and damn…
where’d you listen to it? even though from what i’ve heard i’m dissapointed i really wanna hear the rest. Because i really do want so badly to like it. I just watched in tune and on time, and damn…
dear z-pooh,
i’m not comparing them, you fucking twatcake. i agree with everything you say, you’re reacting like an idiot. peace over
dear z-pooh,
i’m not comparing them, you fucking twatcake. i agree with everything you say, you’re reacting like an idiot. peace over
relax dickhead. i wasn’t arguing with you. I was just adding on to your point in saying that they can’t be compared to other albums of his. But i still stand by the dirty drums comment.
relax dickhead. i wasn’t arguing with you. I was just adding on to your point in saying that they can’t be compared to other albums of his. But i still stand by the dirty drums comment.
I saw Shadows outsider tour in Brisbane Australia on Saturday night: one of the best live shows I have seen, and I have seen a few. Shadow is king, I don’t care what direction he decides to go in. Ok, so the Private Press tour may have ben more my thing, this show was on par.
I don’t know how many of the whining fools on this forum are artists of any sort – musicians, producers, painters actors or whatever. One thing you all need to understand is that every artists needs to develop and mature, they need to overhaull their artmaking in order for them to keep true to themselves. That is what shadow has done. I refuse to believe that a musical genius like shadow would make music for anything but the music itself.
Open your mind a bit, and if you still don’t like it, forget it. The heydey of sample based instrumental epics is over.
I saw Shadows outsider tour in Brisbane Australia on Saturday night: one of the best live shows I have seen, and I have seen a few. Shadow is king, I don’t care what direction he decides to go in. Ok, so the Private Press tour may have ben more my thing, this show was on par.
I don’t know how many of the whining fools on this forum are artists of any sort – musicians, producers, painters actors or whatever. One thing you all need to understand is that every artists needs to develop and mature, they need to overhaull their artmaking in order for them to keep true to themselves. That is what shadow has done. I refuse to believe that a musical genius like shadow would make music for anything but the music itself.
Open your mind a bit, and if you still don’t like it, forget it. The heydey of sample based instrumental epics is over.
I agree with you for the most part, but to say that getting hyphy and dancing like youre having a seizure is maturing and evolving? I would have to politely disagree. And saying sampled based instrumentalism is over?? RJD2, Blockhead, Diplo, Amon Tobin, DJ Krush, Edan, Daedelus, z-trip, format… just to name a few, they’re all still doin it. And it’s just as good as ever. And believe me, personally speaking, my mind is open. I’ll go backpack as shit, to gangsta, to whatever. Hyphy is just something completely different. It’s a culture based on making faces like “you smellin some piss” and doing e. I wouldn’t consider it evolution or maturation.
I agree with you for the most part, but to say that getting hyphy and dancing like youre having a seizure is maturing and evolving? I would have to politely disagree. And saying sampled based instrumentalism is over?? RJD2, Blockhead, Diplo, Amon Tobin, DJ Krush, Edan, Daedelus, z-trip, format… just to name a few, they’re all still doin it. And it’s just as good as ever. And believe me, personally speaking, my mind is open. I’ll go backpack as shit, to gangsta, to whatever. Hyphy is just something completely different. It’s a culture based on making faces like “you smellin some piss” and doing e. I wouldn’t consider it evolution or maturation.
DJ Shadow didn’t sample Simon and Garfunkel on The Private Press, he sampled a song that Simon and Garfunkel later covered.
DJ Shadow didn’t sample Simon and Garfunkel on The Private Press, he sampled a song that Simon and Garfunkel later covered.
DJ Shadow didn’t sample Simon and Garfunkel on The Private Press, he sampled a song that Simon and Garfunkel later covered.
DJ Shadow didn’t sample Simon and Garfunkel on The Private Press, he sampled a song that Simon and Garfunkel later covered.
i have heard the album and well it definately is not entroducing but is he really straying? i mean shadow has been making hip hop tracks for 10 years just through different outlets. his roots are this genre and i believe he wanted to be taken seriously in the mainstream and underground hiphop scene as a contender in the hiphop producing arena. i think he does it here with the david banner track and the q-tip/lateef one. i must admit i am not a fan off the more hyphy tracks but the mcs may not be to my liking but the beats pushing the tracks are still sick. with instrumentals like like “broken levee blues”, “triplicate” and “this time”; shadow still maintains his prior persona as the sample cut and paste iron chef we know him for. imploring the vocals of chris james on “erase you” conjures images of unkle while “you made it” proves davis can make a straight ahead pop track which sounds like radiohead or coldplay.
i think this album is a cumulation of the decade he has spent in the game. i read in a recent interview he had 2 near death experiences and it put his life in perspective so he wanted to have a bit more fun on this album. i think this album has enough for old fans and opens the door to a more expansive audience. its not entroducing, but really did anyone ever think that would happen again? or would want that? this album is another brilliant effort, i think anyone who writes him off without considering what the man has done for music these last years is naive and should take another listen to the outsider.
i have heard the album and well it definately is not entroducing but is he really straying? i mean shadow has been making hip hop tracks for 10 years just through different outlets. his roots are this genre and i believe he wanted to be taken seriously in the mainstream and underground hiphop scene as a contender in the hiphop producing arena. i think he does it here with the david banner track and the q-tip/lateef one. i must admit i am not a fan off the more hyphy tracks but the mcs may not be to my liking but the beats pushing the tracks are still sick. with instrumentals like like “broken levee blues”, “triplicate” and “this time”; shadow still maintains his prior persona as the sample cut and paste iron chef we know him for. imploring the vocals of chris james on “erase you” conjures images of unkle while “you made it” proves davis can make a straight ahead pop track which sounds like radiohead or coldplay.
i think this album is a cumulation of the decade he has spent in the game. i read in a recent interview he had 2 near death experiences and it put his life in perspective so he wanted to have a bit more fun on this album. i think this album has enough for old fans and opens the door to a more expansive audience. its not entroducing, but really did anyone ever think that would happen again? or would want that? this album is another brilliant effort, i think anyone who writes him off without considering what the man has done for music these last years is naive and should take another listen to the outsider.
i have heard the album and well it definately is not entroducing but is he really straying? i mean shadow has been making hip hop tracks for 10 years just through different outlets. his roots are this genre and i believe he wanted to be taken seriously in the mainstream and underground hiphop scene as a contender in the hiphop producing arena. i think he does it here with the david banner track and the q-tip/lateef one. i must admit i am not a fan off the more hyphy tracks but the mcs may not be to my liking but the beats pushing the tracks are still sick. with instrumentals like like “broken levee blues”, “triplicate” and “this time”; shadow still maintains his prior persona as the sample cut and paste iron chef we know him for. imploring the vocals of chris james on “erase you” conjures images of unkle while “you made it” proves davis can make a straight ahead pop track which sounds like radiohead or coldplay.
i think this album is a cumulation of the decade he has spent in the game. i read in a recent interview he had 2 near death experiences and it put his life in perspective so he wanted to have a bit more fun on this album. i think this album has enough for old fans and opens the door to a more expansive audience. its not entroducing, but really did anyone ever think that would happen again? or would want that? this album is another brilliant effort, i think anyone who writes him off without considering what the man has done for music these last years is naive and should take another listen to the outsider.
i have heard the album and well it definately is not entroducing but is he really straying? i mean shadow has been making hip hop tracks for 10 years just through different outlets. his roots are this genre and i believe he wanted to be taken seriously in the mainstream and underground hiphop scene as a contender in the hiphop producing arena. i think he does it here with the david banner track and the q-tip/lateef one. i must admit i am not a fan off the more hyphy tracks but the mcs may not be to my liking but the beats pushing the tracks are still sick. with instrumentals like like “broken levee blues”, “triplicate” and “this time”; shadow still maintains his prior persona as the sample cut and paste iron chef we know him for. imploring the vocals of chris james on “erase you” conjures images of unkle while “you made it” proves davis can make a straight ahead pop track which sounds like radiohead or coldplay.
i think this album is a cumulation of the decade he has spent in the game. i read in a recent interview he had 2 near death experiences and it put his life in perspective so he wanted to have a bit more fun on this album. i think this album has enough for old fans and opens the door to a more expansive audience. its not entroducing, but really did anyone ever think that would happen again? or would want that? this album is another brilliant effort, i think anyone who writes him off without considering what the man has done for music these last years is naive and should take another listen to the outsider.
it’s a joke ?
it’s a joke ?
Nobody’s really writing him off at all. I still think he’s the king. But you say it almost like he’s a newcomer and it went from entroducing to the outsider. But You’ve left out preemptive strike, product placement, private press, in tune and on time, those are all amazing. And no, i wouldn’t expect another album like that necessarily either. But this (relative to hip hop of course) is like if celine dion released a metal record.
Nobody’s really writing him off at all. I still think he’s the king. But you say it almost like he’s a newcomer and it went from entroducing to the outsider. But You’ve left out preemptive strike, product placement, private press, in tune and on time, those are all amazing. And no, i wouldn’t expect another album like that necessarily either. But this (relative to hip hop of course) is like if celine dion released a metal record.
Nobody’s really writing him off at all. I still think he’s the king. But you say it almost like he’s a newcomer and it went from entroducing to the outsider. But You’ve left out preemptive strike, product placement, private press, in tune and on time, those are all amazing. And no, i wouldn’t expect another album like that necessarily either. But this (relative to hip hop of course) is like if celine dion released a metal record.
oh i was not aiming the “writing him off” comment at you just the general fanbase he has. i dont think the celine dion metal record metaphor applies though. he has been doing hip hop records through solesides and even unkle so its no surprise he finally chose to put it on his album. would be interesting to see dion do a metal record though, maybe she could get pelican to back her. anyhow, your right about the the other releases like preemptive strike, private press, in tune, brain freeze, etc. all amazing releases. didnt mean to sound like he went from entroducing to outsider. in the interim between these releaes he has done quite a bit of different projects including diminshing returns which is 2 discs one of all hiphop and the other pyschedlic rock. he even remixed keane?!? and to good effect. im not a fan of the band really but he made them sound good. i guess all im saying is the man likes to try out new things. which can turn on and off people. im sure this album will get mixed reviews at best. i agree on the fact instrumental hiphop is not over by along shot. i just think the genre needs some tweakin, to give it more life and not be the same cookie cutter stuff that deams the tag “sounds like shadow”. on a side note i just saw diplo with bonde de rolle and css. the place went bananas. he played some album downtempo stuff but like shadow he also did the hiphop thing too. i think that show supported the idea that people want to sway to good sounds and hold their significant others hand, but also get sideways on the dancefloor too. i think shadow does that on this album.
oh i was not aiming the “writing him off” comment at you just the general fanbase he has. i dont think the celine dion metal record metaphor applies though. he has been doing hip hop records through solesides and even unkle so its no surprise he finally chose to put it on his album. would be interesting to see dion do a metal record though, maybe she could get pelican to back her. anyhow, your right about the the other releases like preemptive strike, private press, in tune, brain freeze, etc. all amazing releases. didnt mean to sound like he went from entroducing to outsider. in the interim between these releaes he has done quite a bit of different projects including diminshing returns which is 2 discs one of all hiphop and the other pyschedlic rock. he even remixed keane?!? and to good effect. im not a fan of the band really but he made them sound good. i guess all im saying is the man likes to try out new things. which can turn on and off people. im sure this album will get mixed reviews at best. i agree on the fact instrumental hiphop is not over by along shot. i just think the genre needs some tweakin, to give it more life and not be the same cookie cutter stuff that deams the tag “sounds like shadow”. on a side note i just saw diplo with bonde de rolle and css. the place went bananas. he played some album downtempo stuff but like shadow he also did the hiphop thing too. i think that show supported the idea that people want to sway to good sounds and hold their significant others hand, but also get sideways on the dancefloor too. i think shadow does that on this album.
oh i was not aiming the “writing him off” comment at you just the general fanbase he has. i dont think the celine dion metal record metaphor applies though. he has been doing hip hop records through solesides and even unkle so its no surprise he finally chose to put it on his album. would be interesting to see dion do a metal record though, maybe she could get pelican to back her. anyhow, your right about the the other releases like preemptive strike, private press, in tune, brain freeze, etc. all amazing releases. didnt mean to sound like he went from entroducing to outsider. in the interim between these releaes he has done quite a bit of different projects including diminshing returns which is 2 discs one of all hiphop and the other pyschedlic rock. he even remixed keane?!? and to good effect. im not a fan of the band really but he made them sound good. i guess all im saying is the man likes to try out new things. which can turn on and off people. im sure this album will get mixed reviews at best. i agree on the fact instrumental hiphop is not over by along shot. i just think the genre needs some tweakin, to give it more life and not be the same cookie cutter stuff that deams the tag “sounds like shadow”. on a side note i just saw diplo with bonde de rolle and css. the place went bananas. he played some album downtempo stuff but like shadow he also did the hiphop thing too. i think that show supported the idea that people want to sway to good sounds and hold their significant others hand, but also get sideways on the dancefloor too. i think shadow does that on this album.
oh i was not aiming the “writing him off” comment at you just the general fanbase he has. i dont think the celine dion metal record metaphor applies though. he has been doing hip hop records through solesides and even unkle so its no surprise he finally chose to put it on his album. would be interesting to see dion do a metal record though, maybe she could get pelican to back her. anyhow, your right about the the other releases like preemptive strike, private press, in tune, brain freeze, etc. all amazing releases. didnt mean to sound like he went from entroducing to outsider. in the interim between these releaes he has done quite a bit of different projects including diminshing returns which is 2 discs one of all hiphop and the other pyschedlic rock. he even remixed keane?!? and to good effect. im not a fan of the band really but he made them sound good. i guess all im saying is the man likes to try out new things. which can turn on and off people. im sure this album will get mixed reviews at best. i agree on the fact instrumental hiphop is not over by along shot. i just think the genre needs some tweakin, to give it more life and not be the same cookie cutter stuff that deams the tag “sounds like shadow”. on a side note i just saw diplo with bonde de rolle and css. the place went bananas. he played some album downtempo stuff but like shadow he also did the hiphop thing too. i think that show supported the idea that people want to sway to good sounds and hold their significant others hand, but also get sideways on the dancefloor too. i think shadow does that on this album.
you purists are truly pathetic. Old school DJ Shadow fans would be able to see the almost inexorable nature of this supposed “transition” you all are so butt hurt about..DJ Shadow pretty much started his career in the northen CA underground hip hop scene way before it became trendy or marketable. His beats were beyond sick, obstinately original and uncannily innovative. Similarly, if any of you have ever bothered to listen to “hyphy” music (aside from the MTV/BET template) and the beats that are used, you would definitely not be surprised that DJ Shadow would be attracted to the scene(especially since its comin from the streets of Northen Ca too). Many of the songs are completely original, innovative, and use a wide array of samples, sometimes very rare and abstract. Check the whole Mac Dre or Keak Da Sneak discography if you doubt me. I’m sure if a lot of you were to hear the instrumentals of some of these tracks, you wouldn’t spout your elitist rhetoric. And, as if lyrical content about drugs, guns and the fucked up nature of the game has ever been accepted as a legitimate reason to speak down upon a whole style of hip hop..I’m sure a lot of you so-call “hip-hop heads” wouldn’t dare speak in such a way of Mobb Deep or NWA. If you want maturity, go listen to Michael Bolton. If you want some slappers to mash on the motorway to, then jump on the “hyphy train”..And for all of you complainers, I hope the next Shadow album is all hyphy (not really, but it would be interesting) Take a step back and observe before speaking, juniors.
you purists are truly pathetic. Old school DJ Shadow fans would be able to see the almost inexorable nature of this supposed “transition” you all are so butt hurt about..DJ Shadow pretty much started his career in the northen CA underground hip hop scene way before it became trendy or marketable. His beats were beyond sick, obstinately original and uncannily innovative. Similarly, if any of you have ever bothered to listen to “hyphy” music (aside from the MTV/BET template) and the beats that are used, you would definitely not be surprised that DJ Shadow would be attracted to the scene(especially since its comin from the streets of Northen Ca too). Many of the songs are completely original, innovative, and use a wide array of samples, sometimes very rare and abstract. Check the whole Mac Dre or Keak Da Sneak discography if you doubt me. I’m sure if a lot of you were to hear the instrumentals of some of these tracks, you wouldn’t spout your elitist rhetoric. And, as if lyrical content about drugs, guns and the fucked up nature of the game has ever been accepted as a legitimate reason to speak down upon a whole style of hip hop..I’m sure a lot of you so-call “hip-hop heads” wouldn’t dare speak in such a way of Mobb Deep or NWA. If you want maturity, go listen to Michael Bolton. If you want some slappers to mash on the motorway to, then jump on the “hyphy train”..And for all of you complainers, I hope the next Shadow album is all hyphy (not really, but it would be interesting) Take a step back and observe before speaking, juniors.
Once again, nobody’s speaking here without knowing anything. Alot of us have heard the tracks. So don’t pretend you’re the only one who knows what’s up. And Michael Bolton is a gay motherfucker. Who gives a shit if he’s mature. You’re saying all Shadow’s other work hasn’t been? And now you’re comparing the hyphy movement to NWA and Mobb Deep? That should be illegal. Of course we wouldn’t talk shit about NWA and Mobb Deep. They’re old school, original, true gangsta, garage, violent hip-hop. I’m not saying, and i don’t think anybody is saying, that just because the music’s about drugs and violence means it’s bad or immature. But i mean how can you honestly argue that a culture based on seizures and piss smelling is mature? And nobody’s speaking down on it because of drugs or violence. I think Mr. Scarface is Back is amazing, and that’s about nothing but sex and violence. And just because rare samples are used doesn’t mean it’s automatically good. But honestly who gives a fuck. Everyone needs to get over themselves. Whether you’re the “all accepting, all hip hop is respectable” motherfuckers to the motherfuckers like myself. We all need to get over ourselves, but we aren’t going to. So fuckin deal with it. You like it, I don’t. So fucking what. That’s how it is. Nothing any of us on either side say will change anybody’s opinion. I think Hyphy is bullshit, I think Mac Dre was a son of a bitch. You strongly disagree, fine by me. That’s just how it is.
Once again, nobody’s speaking here without knowing anything. Alot of us have heard the tracks. So don’t pretend you’re the only one who knows what’s up. And Michael Bolton is a gay motherfucker. Who gives a shit if he’s mature. You’re saying all Shadow’s other work hasn’t been? And now you’re comparing the hyphy movement to NWA and Mobb Deep? That should be illegal. Of course we wouldn’t talk shit about NWA and Mobb Deep. They’re old school, original, true gangsta, garage, violent hip-hop. I’m not saying, and i don’t think anybody is saying, that just because the music’s about drugs and violence means it’s bad or immature. But i mean how can you honestly argue that a culture based on seizures and piss smelling is mature? And nobody’s speaking down on it because of drugs or violence. I think Mr. Scarface is Back is amazing, and that’s about nothing but sex and violence. And just because rare samples are used doesn’t mean it’s automatically good. But honestly who gives a fuck. Everyone needs to get over themselves. Whether you’re the “all accepting, all hip hop is respectable” motherfuckers to the motherfuckers like myself. We all need to get over ourselves, but we aren’t going to. So fuckin deal with it. You like it, I don’t. So fucking what. That’s how it is. Nothing any of us on either side say will change anybody’s opinion. I think Hyphy is bullshit, I think Mac Dre was a son of a bitch. You strongly disagree, fine by me. That’s just how it is.
Once again, nobody’s speaking here without knowing anything. Alot of us have heard the tracks. So don’t pretend you’re the only one who knows what’s up. And Michael Bolton is a gay motherfucker. Who gives a shit if he’s mature. You’re saying all Shadow’s other work hasn’t been? And now you’re comparing the hyphy movement to NWA and Mobb Deep? That should be illegal. Of course we wouldn’t talk shit about NWA and Mobb Deep. They’re old school, original, true gangsta, garage, violent hip-hop. I’m not saying, and i don’t think anybody is saying, that just because the music’s about drugs and violence means it’s bad or immature. But i mean how can you honestly argue that a culture based on seizures and piss smelling is mature? And nobody’s speaking down on it because of drugs or violence. I think Mr. Scarface is Back is amazing, and that’s about nothing but sex and violence. And just because rare samples are used doesn’t mean it’s automatically good. But honestly who gives a fuck. Everyone needs to get over themselves. Whether you’re the “all accepting, all hip hop is respectable” motherfuckers to the motherfuckers like myself. We all need to get over ourselves, but we aren’t going to. So fuckin deal with it. You like it, I don’t. So fucking what. That’s how it is. Nothing any of us on either side say will change anybody’s opinion. I think Hyphy is bullshit, I think Mac Dre was a son of a bitch. You strongly disagree, fine by me. That’s just how it is.
Once again, nobody’s speaking here without knowing anything. Alot of us have heard the tracks. So don’t pretend you’re the only one who knows what’s up. And Michael Bolton is a gay motherfucker. Who gives a shit if he’s mature. You’re saying all Shadow’s other work hasn’t been? And now you’re comparing the hyphy movement to NWA and Mobb Deep? That should be illegal. Of course we wouldn’t talk shit about NWA and Mobb Deep. They’re old school, original, true gangsta, garage, violent hip-hop. I’m not saying, and i don’t think anybody is saying, that just because the music’s about drugs and violence means it’s bad or immature. But i mean how can you honestly argue that a culture based on seizures and piss smelling is mature? And nobody’s speaking down on it because of drugs or violence. I think Mr. Scarface is Back is amazing, and that’s about nothing but sex and violence. And just because rare samples are used doesn’t mean it’s automatically good. But honestly who gives a fuck. Everyone needs to get over themselves. Whether you’re the “all accepting, all hip hop is respectable” motherfuckers to the motherfuckers like myself. We all need to get over ourselves, but we aren’t going to. So fuckin deal with it. You like it, I don’t. So fucking what. That’s how it is. Nothing any of us on either side say will change anybody’s opinion. I think Hyphy is bullshit, I think Mac Dre was a son of a bitch. You strongly disagree, fine by me. That’s just how it is.
You personally seem to take offense to every post I make, when in actuality, my remarks aren’t directed at you, per se, but at the mentality that you seem to espouse, so please do not get so defensive. I will say this though: I hope your adolescent angst and unquestioning conformity and adherence to what you belive to be “true hip-hop” is soon alleviated. Stop trying to look down on other people and their music to help prove to yourself that you are “down” with hiphop more than others..it gets really old and there are a bunch of young whipper snappers like you who haven’t really paid any dues but seem to spout off at the mouth any time they get a chance, just for their ego’s sake. I’m not trying to say you have to like hyphy music, but don’t talk shit about it, because you obviously aren’t familiar with it enough. Your impression of it is apparently guided by only a few songs, since you seem to quote the same two verses in each of your posts. I’ll close with this last thought, skippy: Hip-hop is bigger than you.
You personally seem to take offense to every post I make, when in actuality, my remarks aren’t directed at you, per se, but at the mentality that you seem to espouse, so please do not get so defensive. I will say this though: I hope your adolescent angst and unquestioning conformity and adherence to what you belive to be “true hip-hop” is soon alleviated. Stop trying to look down on other people and their music to help prove to yourself that you are “down” with hiphop more than others..it gets really old and there are a bunch of young whipper snappers like you who haven’t really paid any dues but seem to spout off at the mouth any time they get a chance, just for their ego’s sake. I’m not trying to say you have to like hyphy music, but don’t talk shit about it, because you obviously aren’t familiar with it enough. Your impression of it is apparently guided by only a few songs, since you seem to quote the same two verses in each of your posts. I’ll close with this last thought, skippy: Hip-hop is bigger than you.
Oh you don’t say? I could have sworn i was the shit and i was bigger and better than everything. Thankyou though for letting me know that i’m not. My ego was getting pretty inflated there. First off, you have no idea how old i am, nor do i know how old you are. And i’m not saying shit about what’s “true hip hop” or anything like that. I’m not trying to say i know more than other people. And never have i said how “down” i am. And how can you assume none of us have “paid our dues” or anything of the sort. And believe me, i’m familiar with it enough to talk shit about it. Alot of my good friends listen to nothing but it. And no, i’m not basing that judgement off of a couple mac dre songs. That’s simply an example. I personally don’t like eminem, but i’m not familiar with him enough to talk shit about him. So i’m not going to, nor do i even necessarily think he’s bad. But i know Hyphy music, and i know it goes beyond mac dre. And i know that i don’t like it. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like it either. I’m just saying i don’t. So why is that such a fucking problem? I only have one point that nobody can seem to understand. After putting out albums like entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, UNKLE, etc. How can you not see my confusion or disdain? And i know hip hop is “bigger than me”. I’m not a fucking moron. Or an arrogant asshole who thinks he’s the shit. I’m just saying in my personal opinion, hyphy is bullshit. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions are they not? The fact of the matter is, the album is only shadow by name, not by sound. In my humble opinion of course.
Oh you don’t say? I could have sworn i was the shit and i was bigger and better than everything. Thankyou though for letting me know that i’m not. My ego was getting pretty inflated there. First off, you have no idea how old i am, nor do i know how old you are. And i’m not saying shit about what’s “true hip hop” or anything like that. I’m not trying to say i know more than other people. And never have i said how “down” i am. And how can you assume none of us have “paid our dues” or anything of the sort. And believe me, i’m familiar with it enough to talk shit about it. Alot of my good friends listen to nothing but it. And no, i’m not basing that judgement off of a couple mac dre songs. That’s simply an example. I personally don’t like eminem, but i’m not familiar with him enough to talk shit about him. So i’m not going to, nor do i even necessarily think he’s bad. But i know Hyphy music, and i know it goes beyond mac dre. And i know that i don’t like it. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like it either. I’m just saying i don’t. So why is that such a fucking problem? I only have one point that nobody can seem to understand. After putting out albums like entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, UNKLE, etc. How can you not see my confusion or disdain? And i know hip hop is “bigger than me”. I’m not a fucking moron. Or an arrogant asshole who thinks he’s the shit. I’m just saying in my personal opinion, hyphy is bullshit. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions are they not? The fact of the matter is, the album is only shadow by name, not by sound. In my humble opinion of course.
Oh you don’t say? I could have sworn i was the shit and i was bigger and better than everything. Thankyou though for letting me know that i’m not. My ego was getting pretty inflated there. First off, you have no idea how old i am, nor do i know how old you are. And i’m not saying shit about what’s “true hip hop” or anything like that. I’m not trying to say i know more than other people. And never have i said how “down” i am. And how can you assume none of us have “paid our dues” or anything of the sort. And believe me, i’m familiar with it enough to talk shit about it. Alot of my good friends listen to nothing but it. And no, i’m not basing that judgement off of a couple mac dre songs. That’s simply an example. I personally don’t like eminem, but i’m not familiar with him enough to talk shit about him. So i’m not going to, nor do i even necessarily think he’s bad. But i know Hyphy music, and i know it goes beyond mac dre. And i know that i don’t like it. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like it either. I’m just saying i don’t. So why is that such a fucking problem? I only have one point that nobody can seem to understand. After putting out albums like entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, UNKLE, etc. How can you not see my confusion or disdain? And i know hip hop is “bigger than me”. I’m not a fucking moron. Or an arrogant asshole who thinks he’s the shit. I’m just saying in my personal opinion, hyphy is bullshit. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions are they not? The fact of the matter is, the album is only shadow by name, not by sound. In my humble opinion of course.
Oh you don’t say? I could have sworn i was the shit and i was bigger and better than everything. Thankyou though for letting me know that i’m not. My ego was getting pretty inflated there. First off, you have no idea how old i am, nor do i know how old you are. And i’m not saying shit about what’s “true hip hop” or anything like that. I’m not trying to say i know more than other people. And never have i said how “down” i am. And how can you assume none of us have “paid our dues” or anything of the sort. And believe me, i’m familiar with it enough to talk shit about it. Alot of my good friends listen to nothing but it. And no, i’m not basing that judgement off of a couple mac dre songs. That’s simply an example. I personally don’t like eminem, but i’m not familiar with him enough to talk shit about him. So i’m not going to, nor do i even necessarily think he’s bad. But i know Hyphy music, and i know it goes beyond mac dre. And i know that i don’t like it. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like it either. I’m just saying i don’t. So why is that such a fucking problem? I only have one point that nobody can seem to understand. After putting out albums like entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, UNKLE, etc. How can you not see my confusion or disdain? And i know hip hop is “bigger than me”. I’m not a fucking moron. Or an arrogant asshole who thinks he’s the shit. I’m just saying in my personal opinion, hyphy is bullshit. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions are they not? The fact of the matter is, the album is only shadow by name, not by sound. In my humble opinion of course.
You really are a boring geek z-pooh. Just shut the fuck up now before you make yourself look like a complete cunt
You really are a boring geek z-pooh. Just shut the fuck up now before you make yourself look like a complete cunt
You really are a boring geek z-pooh. Just shut the fuck up now before you make yourself look like a complete cunt
eat my shit you gay fuck clown. don’t jump in and talk shit. make a fuckin point
eat my shit you gay fuck clown. don’t jump in and talk shit. make a fuckin point
go fuck a bagel. you’re just coming in here tryign to flame people and start some internet fight. That’s some dumb shit. so fuck all y’all who can’t actually talk about something without turning it into a shitfest
go fuck a bagel. you’re just coming in here tryign to flame people and start some internet fight. That’s some dumb shit. so fuck all y’all who can’t actually talk about something without turning it into a shitfest
go fuck a bagel. you’re just coming in here tryign to flame people and start some internet fight. That’s some dumb shit. so fuck all y’all who can’t actually talk about something without turning it into a shitfest
I like big chunks of the album and agree that each artist can only make the kind of stuff they want to, as a means of expanding and developing their sound.
Welcome back Niall, any questions for Shadow? (I’m interviewing him today)
I like big chunks of the album and agree that each artist can only make the kind of stuff they want to, as a means of expanding and developing their sound.
Welcome back Niall, any questions for Shadow? (I’m interviewing him today)
Ah thanks Sinead.. I hear it was your birthday while I was away.. very belated happy birthday..
As regards to asking Shadow.. You could ask him about his opinion on music blogs (which is obvious).
I’d be interested in knowing what reaction he has got from the new album so far and what we can expect for Electric Picnic..
Ah thanks Sinead.. I hear it was your birthday while I was away.. very belated happy birthday..
As regards to asking Shadow.. You could ask him about his opinion on music blogs (which is obvious).
I’d be interested in knowing what reaction he has got from the new album so far and what we can expect for Electric Picnic..
Ah thanks Sinead.. I hear it was your birthday while I was away.. very belated happy birthday..
As regards to asking Shadow.. You could ask him about his opinion on music blogs (which is obvious).
I’d be interested in knowing what reaction he has got from the new album so far and what we can expect for Electric Picnic..
Ah thanks Sinead.. I hear it was your birthday while I was away.. very belated happy birthday..
As regards to asking Shadow.. You could ask him about his opinion on music blogs (which is obvious).
I’d be interested in knowing what reaction he has got from the new album so far and what we can expect for Electric Picnic..
z-pooh once again summing up his stupidity and lack of intelligence. Well done z-pooh, excellent work
z-pooh once again summing up his stupidity and lack of intelligence. Well done z-pooh, excellent work
z-pooh once again summing up his stupidity and lack of intelligence. Well done z-pooh, excellent work
z-pooh once again summing up his stupidity and lack of intelligence. Well done z-pooh, excellent work
not impressed… agree with z-pooh in the album is shadow in name only. it just sounds like it could have been done by any number of producers out there, unlike shadow’s previous records. oh well…
not impressed… agree with z-pooh in the album is shadow in name only. it just sounds like it could have been done by any number of producers out there, unlike shadow’s previous records. oh well…
not impressed… agree with z-pooh in the album is shadow in name only. it just sounds like it could have been done by any number of producers out there, unlike shadow’s previous records. oh well…
man, you folks get worked up. shadow just played down here in NZ a couple of weeks ago and half an hour into his set the bar started to fill up, by the time he pulled out the Stateless guy who does a very poor Coldplay/Radiohead impersonation there was a very steady flow of people leaving the auditorium. it looked great (excellent visuals and staging) sounded rubbish (clueless soundman) and his set was uneven to say the least. almost impossible to tell what he was actually doing as there were scratches appearing while he was wandering around looking important on his podium. Just like last time he used the same ‘off the cuff’ inbetween song banter in Australia days later. No wonder he got boo-ed off at Sonar! Like the refreshingly differerent but ultimately substandard new album, the Banner track stood out like dogs balls because it has a great beat, killer melodies and tones and a ruthless vocal. Sorry, i like hyphy an all but you cant’ say the same about any of the other tracks and they aren’t even really up there with the best hyphy cuts, if any other producer hasd made em how many times would you have listened?.loads of artists have near death experiences or partners with pregnancy complications etc it doesn’t excuse a rubbish record, most artists don’t trade on those things and keep em private. He’s made some great records for sure but as a person he’s right up his own arse and now this record has him sadly believeing his own hype. go on then, hate me now..its’ the truth, a lot of people (shadow apologists and ultra-nerds aside) will be very dissapointed with his show when it gets out from down under without a doubt. he’s one of the best ever but back to the drawing board methinks.
man, you folks get worked up. shadow just played down here in NZ a couple of weeks ago and half an hour into his set the bar started to fill up, by the time he pulled out the Stateless guy who does a very poor Coldplay/Radiohead impersonation there was a very steady flow of people leaving the auditorium. it looked great (excellent visuals and staging) sounded rubbish (clueless soundman) and his set was uneven to say the least. almost impossible to tell what he was actually doing as there were scratches appearing while he was wandering around looking important on his podium. Just like last time he used the same ‘off the cuff’ inbetween song banter in Australia days later. No wonder he got boo-ed off at Sonar! Like the refreshingly differerent but ultimately substandard new album, the Banner track stood out like dogs balls because it has a great beat, killer melodies and tones and a ruthless vocal. Sorry, i like hyphy an all but you cant’ say the same about any of the other tracks and they aren’t even really up there with the best hyphy cuts, if any other producer hasd made em how many times would you have listened?.loads of artists have near death experiences or partners with pregnancy complications etc it doesn’t excuse a rubbish record, most artists don’t trade on those things and keep em private. He’s made some great records for sure but as a person he’s right up his own arse and now this record has him sadly believeing his own hype. go on then, hate me now..its’ the truth, a lot of people (shadow apologists and ultra-nerds aside) will be very dissapointed with his show when it gets out from down under without a doubt. he’s one of the best ever but back to the drawing board methinks.
man, you folks get worked up. shadow just played down here in NZ a couple of weeks ago and half an hour into his set the bar started to fill up, by the time he pulled out the Stateless guy who does a very poor Coldplay/Radiohead impersonation there was a very steady flow of people leaving the auditorium. it looked great (excellent visuals and staging) sounded rubbish (clueless soundman) and his set was uneven to say the least. almost impossible to tell what he was actually doing as there were scratches appearing while he was wandering around looking important on his podium. Just like last time he used the same ‘off the cuff’ inbetween song banter in Australia days later. No wonder he got boo-ed off at Sonar! Like the refreshingly differerent but ultimately substandard new album, the Banner track stood out like dogs balls because it has a great beat, killer melodies and tones and a ruthless vocal. Sorry, i like hyphy an all but you cant’ say the same about any of the other tracks and they aren’t even really up there with the best hyphy cuts, if any other producer hasd made em how many times would you have listened?.loads of artists have near death experiences or partners with pregnancy complications etc it doesn’t excuse a rubbish record, most artists don’t trade on those things and keep em private. He’s made some great records for sure but as a person he’s right up his own arse and now this record has him sadly believeing his own hype. go on then, hate me now..its’ the truth, a lot of people (shadow apologists and ultra-nerds aside) will be very dissapointed with his show when it gets out from down under without a doubt. he’s one of the best ever but back to the drawing board methinks.
man, you folks get worked up. shadow just played down here in NZ a couple of weeks ago and half an hour into his set the bar started to fill up, by the time he pulled out the Stateless guy who does a very poor Coldplay/Radiohead impersonation there was a very steady flow of people leaving the auditorium. it looked great (excellent visuals and staging) sounded rubbish (clueless soundman) and his set was uneven to say the least. almost impossible to tell what he was actually doing as there were scratches appearing while he was wandering around looking important on his podium. Just like last time he used the same ‘off the cuff’ inbetween song banter in Australia days later. No wonder he got boo-ed off at Sonar! Like the refreshingly differerent but ultimately substandard new album, the Banner track stood out like dogs balls because it has a great beat, killer melodies and tones and a ruthless vocal. Sorry, i like hyphy an all but you cant’ say the same about any of the other tracks and they aren’t even really up there with the best hyphy cuts, if any other producer hasd made em how many times would you have listened?.loads of artists have near death experiences or partners with pregnancy complications etc it doesn’t excuse a rubbish record, most artists don’t trade on those things and keep em private. He’s made some great records for sure but as a person he’s right up his own arse and now this record has him sadly believeing his own hype. go on then, hate me now..its’ the truth, a lot of people (shadow apologists and ultra-nerds aside) will be very dissapointed with his show when it gets out from down under without a doubt. he’s one of the best ever but back to the drawing board methinks.
oh and mos def (plus his half asleep dj and no-hype man), who supported was just plain lazy, even the backpackers who showed up just for him were perplexed and vexed
oh and mos def (plus his half asleep dj and no-hype man), who supported was just plain lazy, even the backpackers who showed up just for him were perplexed and vexed
oh and mos def (plus his half asleep dj and no-hype man), who supported was just plain lazy, even the backpackers who showed up just for him were perplexed and vexed
I’ll agree with one thing Pete said…these really aren’t the best hyphy cuts out there..but considering that it’s somewhat new ground for DJ Shadow, I would think of them as admirable and can certainly hold their own weight in the world of hyphy music..I’ve played them for my friends who listen to nothing but hyphy shit and they seem to like it..I don’t think they’ll have too much trouble fitting in to the “hyphy” genre..of course, I hope that he will expand his hyphy production sound to be less like the MTV sampling of what seems more like a bay area “crunk” (a la Turf Dancing), and move more towards a “White T-shirt, Blue Jeans and Nikes” or even “Genie of the Lamp” style..fast, bass heavy beats and call-out choruses do not necessarily a hyphy cut make, just so all of you know..and to say that something is “Shadow in name only” doesn’t really make sense, considering that whatever the man produces is certainly Shadow in name and form, being that it is a product of his own creative ingenuity and talent..perhaps what you mean to say is that it doesn’t sound like his last album (by they way, NONE of them have)..and one more thing..have any of you heard his OBEY promo set, Funky Skunk? I wasn’t too impressed, but it certainly has offered a little glimpse into the future. His music has been very self-indulgent, i would concur, but again, thats not necessarily a bad thing..I’m sure in time, we will see better hyphy cuts..more live instrumentation and vocals, more “underground hip hop” and of course more sample based melodic trip hop..but it’s a nice diversity I think. It certainly isn’t anything ENTIRELY new..you can see that he has been doing all of this stuff in some form or another all throughout his career, from Solesides to Pre-Emptive Strike to Diminishing Returns to Unkle to Funky Skunk..by the way, anyone else going to see SHadow with Massive Attack in Berkeley in september?? I like Massive Attack, but the only real reason I’m going is to see Shadow..hope it’s not disappointing like Pete’s experience…
I’ll agree with one thing Pete said…these really aren’t the best hyphy cuts out there..but considering that it’s somewhat new ground for DJ Shadow, I would think of them as admirable and can certainly hold their own weight in the world of hyphy music..I’ve played them for my friends who listen to nothing but hyphy shit and they seem to like it..I don’t think they’ll have too much trouble fitting in to the “hyphy” genre..of course, I hope that he will expand his hyphy production sound to be less like the MTV sampling of what seems more like a bay area “crunk” (a la Turf Dancing), and move more towards a “White T-shirt, Blue Jeans and Nikes” or even “Genie of the Lamp” style..fast, bass heavy beats and call-out choruses do not necessarily a hyphy cut make, just so all of you know..and to say that something is “Shadow in name only” doesn’t really make sense, considering that whatever the man produces is certainly Shadow in name and form, being that it is a product of his own creative ingenuity and talent..perhaps what you mean to say is that it doesn’t sound like his last album (by they way, NONE of them have)..and one more thing..have any of you heard his OBEY promo set, Funky Skunk? I wasn’t too impressed, but it certainly has offered a little glimpse into the future. His music has been very self-indulgent, i would concur, but again, thats not necessarily a bad thing..I’m sure in time, we will see better hyphy cuts..more live instrumentation and vocals, more “underground hip hop” and of course more sample based melodic trip hop..but it’s a nice diversity I think. It certainly isn’t anything ENTIRELY new..you can see that he has been doing all of this stuff in some form or another all throughout his career, from Solesides to Pre-Emptive Strike to Diminishing Returns to Unkle to Funky Skunk..by the way, anyone else going to see SHadow with Massive Attack in Berkeley in september?? I like Massive Attack, but the only real reason I’m going is to see Shadow..hope it’s not disappointing like Pete’s experience…
I agree with you for the most part really, but my point in saying it’s only shadow in name, i mean sure his albums all sound different. Mashing on the Motorway, Monosylabik, Blood on the Motorway, none of those sound like anything off entroducing or preemptive or anything. As a matter of fact, almost all the songs off private press have a different sound. But it was still a very distinctly “shadow” sound. But now, this sound is the same one a dozen other cats are creating. It’s not original as shit like everything else he’s done. It’s not unique, it doesn’t make you sit back and say holy shit… The music was so visual and different before, and now it’s just not really anything new.
I agree with you for the most part really, but my point in saying it’s only shadow in name, i mean sure his albums all sound different. Mashing on the Motorway, Monosylabik, Blood on the Motorway, none of those sound like anything off entroducing or preemptive or anything. As a matter of fact, almost all the songs off private press have a different sound. But it was still a very distinctly “shadow” sound. But now, this sound is the same one a dozen other cats are creating. It’s not original as shit like everything else he’s done. It’s not unique, it doesn’t make you sit back and say holy shit… The music was so visual and different before, and now it’s just not really anything new.
I agree with you for the most part really, but my point in saying it’s only shadow in name, i mean sure his albums all sound different. Mashing on the Motorway, Monosylabik, Blood on the Motorway, none of those sound like anything off entroducing or preemptive or anything. As a matter of fact, almost all the songs off private press have a different sound. But it was still a very distinctly “shadow” sound. But now, this sound is the same one a dozen other cats are creating. It’s not original as shit like everything else he’s done. It’s not unique, it doesn’t make you sit back and say holy shit… The music was so visual and different before, and now it’s just not really anything new.
I don’t care if it’s hyphy, a sell-out or anything else.
These new tracks are really bland.
I wonder how they will hold against monuments like Strawberry fields forever, when doves cry or blue monday…
I don’t care if it’s hyphy, a sell-out or anything else.
These new tracks are really bland.
I wonder how they will hold against monuments like Strawberry fields forever, when doves cry or blue monday…
WTF happened to Shadow? This album is completely unlistenable. I’m sick of rappers ruining he shit I listen to. First RJD2 and now Shadow. Fuck this.
WTF happened to Shadow? This album is completely unlistenable. I’m sick of rappers ruining he shit I listen to. First RJD2 and now Shadow. Fuck this.
what did rjd2 do that was so bad?
what did rjd2 do that was so bad?
The Diiiiiirty south cannot do hiphop. Leave it the fuck alone.
The Diiiiiirty south cannot do hiphop. Leave it the fuck alone.
what?
what?
I’m fond of music and I want to dedicate my life to it. As for me your site is worth visiting. My best wishes.
I’m fond of music and I want to dedicate my life to it. As for me your site is worth visiting. My best wishes.
Pete: Amen.
Pete: Amen.
“Ex-Shadow-Fan Says: July 23rd, 2006 at 5:46 pm – wtf is this album i have like a 100 dj shadow albums varying from livesets to his various ep/lp albums.”
quite a nice collection when the man has made only two albums so far (third album coming out in a while; songs listed at the top) and few of collaborations.
get your head out of your ass man and support the atrists by BUYING the albums.
“Ex-Shadow-Fan Says: July 23rd, 2006 at 5:46 pm – wtf is this album i have like a 100 dj shadow albums varying from livesets to his various ep/lp albums.”
quite a nice collection when the man has made only two albums so far (third album coming out in a while; songs listed at the top) and few of collaborations.
get your head out of your ass man and support the atrists by BUYING the albums.
alright well he doesn’t only have two albums first of all. He’s got entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, in tune and on time, product placement, u.n.k.l.e. etc. Sure the post wasn’t the most clear, but what are you saying? his head isn’t in his ass. Being a shadow fan, and not an ex shadow fan, this album is somewhat shocking to say the least. There’s no denying that. And i don’t see what supporting the artists and buying the albums has anything to do with it. Nobody said anything about that.
alright well he doesn’t only have two albums first of all. He’s got entroducing, preemptive strike, private press, in tune and on time, product placement, u.n.k.l.e. etc. Sure the post wasn’t the most clear, but what are you saying? his head isn’t in his ass. Being a shadow fan, and not an ex shadow fan, this album is somewhat shocking to say the least. There’s no denying that. And i don’t see what supporting the artists and buying the albums has anything to do with it. Nobody said anything about that.
Hey, how’d you guys hear the new album already? I’m going to save my judgment until Sept 19, that way I can hear the entire album proper.
Shadow’s been playing live in Europe, and I’ve read that the new songs are really dope in concert. I know the album is different in concept and execution–it’s certainly not going to be anything like Entroducing or the Private Press, but I don’t understand the hate just because Shadow’s changing things up…
Hey, how’d you guys hear the new album already? I’m going to save my judgment until Sept 19, that way I can hear the entire album proper.
Shadow’s been playing live in Europe, and I’ve read that the new songs are really dope in concert. I know the album is different in concept and execution–it’s certainly not going to be anything like Entroducing or the Private Press, but I don’t understand the hate just because Shadow’s changing things up…
have you read the posts?
have you read the posts?
That’s all there is to it. Some people like it, some people don’t. Accept it or don’t.
That’s all there is to it. Some people like it, some people don’t. Accept it or don’t.