There’s been a lot of talk in Andrea and Niall‘s circles this week about the ethics of having a Spotify account in the wake of the Joe Rogan / Neil Young flareup.
So we thought we’d finally get one of our old pals, Liz Pelly, a NYC writer who has written extensively about Spotify and streaming issues in recent years on to discuss the ethics, morality of the issues that people are talking about while looking at alternative models and services for streaming and Spotify.
Why did it take a celebrity podcaster paid by Spotify touting misinformation for this to happen? Why wasn’t the long-held issue of small royalty payments by streaming services a greater factor?
We look at whether the streaming model is actually sustainable, user-centric payment systems (supported by Deezer) vs pooling, platforms such as Resonate, Bandcamp and how public libraries might point the way forward. Plus a mention for Irish streaming service MINM.
Episode notes / references
Music on this week’s show: JarjarJr – ‘Boost’
- Socialized Streaming: A case for universal music access, Real Life, Liz Pelly
- Library Music: Public libraries offer small-scale streaming alternatives for local archiving, The Broadcast, Liz Pelly
- Podcast Overlords: Spotify only works for the stars, The Baffler, Liz Pelly
Andrea’s own podcast – My Favourite Album

Niall Byrne is the founder of the most-influential Irish music site Nialler9, where he has been writing about music since 2005 . He is the co-host of the Nialler9 Podcast and has written for the Irish Times, Irish Independent, Cara Magazine, Sunday Times, Totally Dublin, Red Bull and more. Niall is a DJ, founder of Lumo Club, club promoter, event curator and producer of gigs, listening parties & events in Dublin.